Air Liquide has announced that the second of two hydrogen fuelling station as part of the Canadian Hydrogen Energy Demonstration Project will be Vancouver International Airport. The project is a £7.92 million (CAD $14 million) undertaking and includes the participation of Natural Resources Canada, the governments of British Columbia and Quebec, and 14 participating companies. The first fuelling station at Montreal's Trudeau International Airport was announced earlier this year.

The hydrogen fuelling station will add to BC's existing hydrogen highway and would provide a local source of hydrogen for Whistler's fleet of 20 hydrogen fuel cell electric buses which are expected to be completely commissioned in time for the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games.

AIR LIQUIDE CANADA | Air Liquide Adds Vancouver International Airport to Canadian Hydrogen Energy Demonstration Project

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There some criticism of the costs of the hydrogen buses and fueling stations here:

CBC News - Consumer Life - Hydrogen-powered buses at Olympics under scrutiny

But, what the writer seems to fail to realize is that this is future technology that still needs to be demonstrated and the price tag will naturally be high right now. In time, with mass production the costs will come down. The 2010 Winter Olympics are a good venue for hydrogen vehicles just like the Summer Olympics in Beijing, China was also a good venue for hydrogen vehicles.

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I've not watched a lot of the Olympics on TV but I have noticed that the downhill ski competition is at Whistler where there is one hydrogen fueling station to go along with about 6 others in that region. Now if we can just get Oregon and Washington to build a few station and a couple in between San Francisco and Los Angeles we would indeed have a West Coast hydrogen highway system.

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I don't see it making any difference either way, to tell you the truth. As long as hydrogen is a net energy loser, it will never take off. Since it is a net energy loser, it is only a type of energy storage, and it isn't nearly as efficient as the various lithium derivative batteries at storing energy, at least for short term storage. Since it is able to be stored indefinitely with no losses, I'm sure it will find a use somewhere, but I don't think it will ever be popular in automobiles.

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I think hydrogen will be popular later rather than sooner. I don't see electric vehicle battery makers as solving the short range and long charge times any time soon. Hydrogen also isn't a near term answer. For hydrogen to take off their needs to be some breakthrough technology such as cost effective hydrogen on demand for creating hydrogen at home or at the pump. Also, renewable energy for creating hydrogen needs to also take off first and then hydrogen production will follow.

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I don't think hydrogen will ever be popular, for the reason I already stated. See, the old fogies who only cared about themselves are dying off, and are being replaced by young people who actually feel somewhat responsible for the damage that they do to the Earth. That's a first for humanity, and I have a feeling that it will continue to become more and more prevalent in the years to come. I think that the children of today will be more responsible adults of tomorrow, and will seek out transportation that is as responsible as they happen to be. A net energy loser isn't the answer they'll be seeking.*


I don't happen to know anyone who drives more than 100 miles/day on a regular basis, but if I did, I would recommend that they invest in a home closer to where they work, not in a completely new, untested technology (hydrogen powered automobiles). I have the feeling that hydrogen will be used in later years for long term energy storage, though. Like so we can produce excess electricity during the fall and winter with large wind turbines, then store that excess energy until summer, when we use more electricity here in the US, because our air conditioning systems are so inefficient, and we ignorantly choose not to insulate our houses and businesses.


*For those who don't already know, a "net energy loser" is something that requires more energy to produce than it can later provide.

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I must agree with myocardia on this one.

First of all he is right regarding the technology taking more power to create then it outputs. Also it currently costs an insane amount of money for a hydrogen engine. So why would Vancouver invest so much money just for 20 buses? Would it not be better to set an example of what can be done right now and just invest in electric buses and a changing station? Yes I said changing, not charging. I saw a video on youtube not long ago that basically shows the ideas for where electric can go. One of those ideas was a "changing station" where you drive in, your battery comes out, and a fully charged one goes in. Basically like a battery sharing option, and even faster then filling up at the pump, not to mention charging up at the plug. This would be perfect for buses as well seeing they are owned by the same group of people. Would that not make more financial sense? Even the buses here in Toronto are hybrids (most of them at least).

Frankly it's a lot of money to pay for something that eventually will be taken out and replaced. They have been working on hydrogen power for a very long time, and the price is coming down, but not very much. Meanwhile battery technology keeps getting better and better, and the price is coming down at a faster rate.

Agree, disagree?